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06 April 2004 @ 07:32 pm
The interview went well, except  
. It was no questions asked, nothing about my employement history or educational background. The woman I talked to gave me a contract to sign and meanwhile explained which days and hours she expected to see me working. To my question what I should put as under subjects taught, I was told to put whatever I thought I was up to. Weird. Then it was time to teach my first class for which I was utterly unprepared of course. It went pretty well, considering that it was the first time I worked with kids. Their previous teacher had read a book with them and they are still in the middle of it, but since I hadn't read it (will do that tonight) , we stayed on rather general topics and only used the book text for some exercises. Gonna be more prepared tomorrow.

While screencapping a supposedly 'shippy scene from Sex, Lies and Larvae as a favour for someone. It was strange, Grissom was just an old dude who had zero chemistry with Sara. Their relationship seemed everything but mutually romantic to me. To me Sara looked like a student with a crush. Maybe my CSI watching days are really over. Fandoms come and go. Or they stay - three of them have so far. I don't know what made them stay, one of those shows had one season that rocked, and four that sucked beyond description, but I stopped watching at the beginning of the third season. So, is one great season enough? Even though there is a limited number of episodes the show's universe is still interesting and worth exploring and discussing. Or take M7, the show had one baaaad season, then got cancelled and still there is a lot of fanfic getting written now. But with that show it seems to be the characters not the world that is intriguing for the fans, is a huge portion of the fic takes place in AUs.
In turn with lots of other fandoms I've just plain lost interest, or the show has taken a turn I didn't like, or new shows didn't turn out as well as they looked. CSI is a mix of the first two I think. The show has lost quality, but somehow that isn't all there is to it, I've gone from being interested in the characters to being annoyed by most of them, especially by Grissom. Did anyone say incompetent leadership? Not that Catherine would do a much better job. Granted, the cases have gotten better in S4, but the mix isn't working as well anymore. At least not for me : /
Who knows, I've had fandom recurrences before, my fandomship for Stargate SG1, has been dead more times than Mulder.

Anyone wanna share their fandom thoughts and histories? I'd love to hear it.
 
 
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Illmanillman on April 6th, 2004 11:07 am (UTC)
Well, me neither. Considering, I go to the trouble of downloading the ep every week and running an episode archive, I must be nuts *G*

My currently active fandoms are WaT, Law and Order, Crossing Jordan, Joan of Arcadia (only the show not the fandom that goes with it), Alias, M7 on some days and as long standing fandoms B5, SG1 and EFC.
planbee on April 6th, 2004 11:29 am (UTC)
Anyone wanna share their fandom thoughts and histories? I'd love to hear it.

I'll share. I was out of the loop as far as primetime TV goes for many years. I had taped Sunset Beach (NBC soap opera) during the day and watched it at night so I didn't watch any primetime programming during it's run (January 1997 - December 1999). After it was canceled I had no idea what shows were on primetime TV so I literally tried watching every show out there. Didn't really like any except for Alias and WaT. I watched Alias' first 13 episodes and after that I quit. It just seemed like the same boring episode week after week. Bleh.

WaT stuck with me. Then I got involved and fell in love with Firefly and Wonderfalls (both on Friday nights on FOX) and they both unfairly got the axe. This leaves me with WaT and an inclination not to watch any brand-new show for fear it'll just get canceled if the first episode's ratings aren't magnificent.

I also watch a few cable shows. Monk (solid ratings on USA - but it wouldn't work on the broadcast networks), $40 A Day on Food Network (they are filming the 3rd season right now) and I'm watching Green Acres for the first time on TV Land. I watch that for an hour each night so I don't need to worry about other shows. I'm on episode 35 or so out of 170 so I don't have to worry for awhile.

Fandom? There really aren't fandoms for the cable shows I watch. I like WaT's fandom but a spectacular episode will beat the fandom hands down. But that hasn't happened as often in S2 as it did in S1.

There is my fandom history. It's too long but that's how it is.
eolivet on April 6th, 2004 12:32 pm (UTC)
Granted, the cases have gotten better in S4, but the mix isn't working as well anymore. At least not for me : /

You've summed up my thoughts perfectly. For me, fandom is so personal that when a show insults my intelligence and makes its characters wholly unrecognizable (Grissom), it's like...I can't go back. Apologies for this really awful analogy, but it's like the show was abusive. It beat me up once, and it says it's really sorry and it'll never happen again (S4), but...how do I really know?

Continuing on this bizarre analogy, WaT has inspired a devotion matched only by (and gaining ground on) the XF. I fell fast and hard, but it was all so good. S2 I feel like the honeymoon's over, and the little things do bother me, but the love is still there. :ph34r: I mean, yeah, occasionally we'll have screaming fights and I've been known to hold a grudge, but it passes -- because the next week, I'll see something that reminds me why I fell in love with it.

Fandom is like a love affair. I have other shows I watch and enjoy -- but it's the equivalent of nights of passion with nothing else in common (The O.C.) or a really strong friendship is all I'll ever be able to offer (Joan of Arcadia). I think you can have multiple fandoms, but one will always be your primary one -- and for me, it's the one you fall in love with, which is why you stay, year after year.

And...yeah, that was a little more rambly than I hoped. Sorry!! :ph34r:
Settle down, Beavischili_powda on April 6th, 2004 01:29 pm (UTC)
I agree with you about CSI. For me, at least, that show hurt me very badly, and there wasn't any incentive to reinvest my faith or time after I'd recovered. :\ It would require me to put faith in people I don't trust, which I can't do. I know a lot of people who have stuck with them this whole time, but... I just couldn't... :(
Woodstocktrigeekgirl on April 6th, 2004 01:44 pm (UTC)
I started in the Harry Potter fandom, and if there's any fandom that will drive you up the wall quicker, I haven't found it. Horrid ship wars, big "I'm taking my toys and going home"-type fanfiction battles. It was bad. I left even being a lurker in that fandom because there was too much drama.

I currently read fanfic in 5 fandoms if I can find good fic for them (CSI, BtVS, La Femme Nikita, Babylon 5, and I'm just beginning to read WaT). That's always been the extent of my fandom involvement. I don't write fic, I don't beta for anyone, I don't have a site dedicated to a character/actor. I just read.

As for CSI, I agree. S4 just hasn't been as good. I acknowledge that people change and that characters do too, but yeah, Grissom should probably have never been promoted. He's a good science geek, but a bad leader.
Illmanillman on April 6th, 2004 01:54 pm (UTC)
I started in the Harry Potter fandom, and if there's any fandom that will drive you up the wall quicker, I haven't found it. Horrid ship wars, big "I'm taking my toys and going home"-type fanfiction battles. It was bad. I left even being a lurker in that fandom because there was too much drama.>/i>

Normally, I'm an active fan, I write, beta and run websites, but just briefly lurking in the HP fandom scared me away. Also, there was too much 'ship for me in HP, but then I'm not big on 'ship in any famdom.
Woodstocktrigeekgirl on April 6th, 2004 02:07 pm (UTC)
Yeah, that was my main problem with HP. Too much shipping, and lots of evil stuff if you didn't agree with the person's OTP. I'm not all that fond of slash, though I know plenty who like it and hey, that's them. Apparently not liking slash made me a homophobe. That was my cue to leave HP fandom.

I started watching CSI for the science (and the others for the same reason and/or strong female characters). Ships are most definitely secondary to all that, but they are kinda fun.
gledster2000gledster2000 on April 6th, 2004 03:00 pm (UTC)
Okay dokey, you asked for it *grin*. Actually, with me there's not much to tell. I've always been passionate about the TV shows I watch, ever since watching Due South and Bugs (on the BBC) as a youngster. Even now I'm on the outskirts of fandom. I'd love to get more involved but time is the big killer for me. I've read some fanfiction, but not as much as I want to. I'd love to write but again, not enough time. I just enjoy the eps, enjoy reading people's comments on the eps and enjoy posting my own thoughts.

For which series have I done this? Well it started way back when Red Dwarf series 7 was being shown on the BBC then I moved on to Due South, then Buffy and Angel. I started in the newsgroups (uk.media.tv.buffy-v-slayer and uk.media.tv.angel) and moved on to messageboards. I wanted to get more involved but the internet costs wouldn't let me *sniff*. Anyways, cue my move to Uni and CSI starting, alongside Law & Order. I REALLY got into CSI series 1 & 2, as many of us did, but I didn't discover the fandom for it (in particular, YTDAW) until mid-way through series 3. I've also, thanks to YTDAW and you Illman, got into WaT and JOA. Would love more time to read fanfic but only after I've got through the novels I've bought recently! :D :D

For the moment I'll contiune with my - watch eps, read comments, post my comments strategy. I can do that!
Ash: SG - Daniel/Jonas [[by me]]ashism on April 6th, 2004 03:20 pm (UTC)
There hasn't been one show that I've been committed to as much as I was with the X-Files (read: Mulder and Scully). I drifted in and out of online fandom in the later years but never really stopped loving the show because of the fandom wars, which says a lot because that fandom has pretty much gone down in history as one of the worst (for the last two seasons at least). But I still love it, I think it's primarily because it was my first love, my first online fandom, my first serious 'ship. I went the whole nine yards with a crappy little site and everything. I have a loyalty to it that will never go away.

For a while Grissom/Sara matched my love for Mulder/Scully, and I will always love the 'ship, the 'ship is not the source of my problems for me and CSI because it's been great this season, but I'm not so much feeling the CSI love right now - mostly because that team dynamic is gone due to the in-fighting that they seem to focus unnecessarily on between Sara and Nick, partly because Gary is MIA this season and I hope to God he doesn't leave (I have much hope that next season he'll come back full time and we'll start getting back to that team dynamic and chemistry we saw in the earlier seasons), but also because Catherine pisses me off something royally - taking advantage of her supposed best friend is, to me, not in character for her. She's never been my favourite character but I've always put up with her until this season, and now I find I hate how much screen-time she's taken up with her constant empathisizing and story-telling with the female/mother victims. Yes, we get that she's a mom and she's come far, we don't need it shoved in her face. Instead of confident and assertive she seems self-righteous and up in everyone's faces like she's the boss and Grissom who?

But even though that's all true for me, I still love CSI, I just need to get my groove back. The entire fandom seems kind of disillusioned right now and it's not helping me any ;) I think we all just need a break and some fabulous writing to pick ourselves back up.

Anywho, sorry for rambling (and that's only two of my fandoms, I have a half dozen others I could talk for hours on). I won't even get onto Stargate because meh, talk about disillusionment.
Natputinthespark on April 8th, 2004 01:27 am (UTC)
i def. like older csi more than s4 so far... all season ive been waiting for g/s and *poof*, nothing :(

i liked the last ep, but not how it well... didnt 'end' as such.

makes me sad :(